Baby talk

[Mike B]

I just started watching GG a few weeks ago. I caught the Pilot on reruns and
have been hooked. Rory seems to have a sort of baby talk kind of thing
going. Not too annoying because she is young and cute. Last week I caught
the brand new episode where she is in college now. She still has the cutesy
baby talk going and it is a bit much for a 19-20 year old student, don't you
think?

[Rob Jensen]

Post by Mike B
I just started watching GG a few weeks ago. I caught the Pilot on reruns and
have been hooked. Rory seems to have a sort of baby talk kind of thing
going. Not too annoying because she is young and cute. Last week I caught
the brand new episode where she is in college now. She still has the cutesy
baby talk going and it is a bit much for a 19-20 year old student, don't you
think?

Cite instances, please. IMO, your general impression of Rory as having
"a sort of baby talk" is *too* general to comment on.

-- Rob

[Anne]

Post by Mike B
I just started watching GG a few weeks ago. I caught the Pilot on reruns
and have been hooked. Rory seems to have a sort of baby talk kind of
thing going. Not too annoying because she is young and cute. Last week I
caught the brand new episode where she is in college now. She still has
the cutesy baby talk going and it is a bit much for a 19-20 year old
student, don't you think?

Cite instances, please. IMO, your general impression of Rory as having "a
sort of baby talk" is *too* general to comment on.

I think I know what he means. If you watch the pilot, Rory has a much
deeper voice and a more surly teen tone. Later, they make Rory adopt a
sweeter and more submissive tone, which definitely seems more child-like.

[Rob Jensen]

Post by Anne

Post by Mike B
I just started watching GG a few weeks ago. I caught the Pilot on reruns
and have been hooked. Rory seems to have a sort of baby talk kind of
thing going. Not too annoying because she is young and cute. Last week I
caught the brand new episode where she is in college now. She still has
the cutesy baby talk going and it is a bit much for a 19-20 year old
student, don't you think?

Cite instances, please. IMO, your general impression of Rory as having "a
sort of baby talk" is *too* general to comment on.

I think I know what he means. If you watch the pilot, Rory has a much
deeper voice and a more surly teen tone. Later, they make Rory adopt a
sweeter and more submissive tone, which definitely seems more child-like.

Sorry, but that doesn't clear anything up for me. Rory is 15 years
younger than me, so everything she does looks young.

Rory can be surly and bratty toward Lorelai when she wants to be -- as
in the "your boobs are bigger than mine" argument from s1 even though
Lor was the bigger brat in *that* argument (partly because Lor was the
one that picked it). Likewise, Rory's always been a shy, reticient
sweetheart, as in the scene where she and Dean meet in the Pilot (where
he helps her pick up the dumped papers).

She's complex, she contains multitudes. But just because she often
wears the Mom hat when she deals with Lorelai doesn't mean that she's
able to do anything more than play the kid in her dealings with Emily
and Richard. She takes after her mother in the way that she's just not
comfortable in her own skin, even though she's trying.

So baby talk? I just don't see it.

-- Rob

[Mike B]

I am talking about the way she sounds, not the content of her lines, and I
don't mean that she says "goo goo gaa gaa".
On the new episode I saw she was trying to buy a fancy coffee from a street
cart and it just sounded like a 10 year old might. I can't do the imitation
on a keyboard and some people probably know what I mean and other don't and
there won't be a way to convince them.

MIKE

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Anne

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Mike B
I just started watching GG a few weeks ago. I caught the Pilot on reruns
and have been hooked. Rory seems to have a sort of baby talk kind of
thing going. Not too annoying because she is young and cute. Last week I
caught the brand new episode where she is in college now. She still has
the cutesy baby talk going and it is a bit much for a 19-20 year old
student, don't you think?

Cite instances, please. IMO, your general impression of Rory as having
"a sort of baby talk" is *too* general to comment on.

I think I know what he means. If you watch the pilot, Rory has a much
deeper voice and a more surly teen tone. Later, they make Rory adopt a
sweeter and more submissive tone, which definitely seems more child-like.

Sorry, but that doesn't clear anything up for me. Rory is 15 years
younger than me, so everything she does looks young.
Rory can be surly and bratty toward Lorelai when she wants to be -- as in
the "your boobs are bigger than mine" argument from s1 even though Lor was
the bigger brat in *that* argument (partly because Lor was the one that
picked it). Likewise, Rory's always been a shy, reticient sweetheart, as
in the scene where she and Dean meet in the Pilot (where he helps her pick
up the dumped papers).
She's complex, she contains multitudes. But just because she often wears
the Mom hat when she deals with Lorelai doesn't mean that she's able to do
anything more than play the kid in her dealings with Emily and Richard.
She takes after her mother in the way that she's just not comfortable in
her own skin, even though she's trying.
So baby talk? I just don't see it.
-- Rob
--
"I think [Rory's] just a whore, a strumpet and a crack addict." -- Amy
Sherman-Palladino, noted jokester

[Bill Durham]

Post by Mike B
I am talking about the way she sounds, not the content of her lines, and I
don't mean that she says "goo goo gaa gaa".
On the new episode I saw she was trying to buy a fancy coffee from a street
cart and it just sounded like a 10 year old might. I can't do the imitation
on a keyboard and some people probably know what I mean and other don't and
there won't be a way to convince them.
MIKE

MIke,

I hear it too...she just kinda mumbles and runs words together...

BD

[Rob Jensen]

Post by Bill Durham

Post by Mike B
I am talking about the way she sounds, not the content of her lines,
and I don't mean that she says "goo goo gaa gaa".
On the new episode I saw she was trying to buy a fancy coffee from a
street cart and it just sounded like a 10 year old might. I can't do
the imitation on a keyboard and some people probably know what I mean
and other don't and there won't be a way to convince them.
MIKE

MIke,
I hear it too...she just kinda mumbles and runs words together...

That's not baby talk -- that's poor enunciation. And *that* I agree AB
had in earlier seasons.

-- Rob

[David E. Milligan]

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Bill Durham

Post by Mike B
I am talking about the way she sounds, not the content of her lines, and
I don't mean that she says "goo goo gaa gaa".
On the new episode I saw she was trying to buy a fancy coffee from a
street cart and it just sounded like a 10 year old might. I can't do the
imitation on a keyboard and some people probably know what I mean and
other don't and there won't be a way to convince them.
MIKE

MIke,
I hear it too...she just kinda mumbles and runs words together...

That's not baby talk -- that's poor enunciation. And *that* I agree AB
had in earlier seasons.
-- Rob

Didn't I read somewhere that English was her second language? May
explain her poor enunciation.

[Steve B.]

Post by David E. Milligan

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Bill Durham

Post by Mike B
I am talking about the way she sounds, not the content of her lines, and
I don't mean that she says "goo goo gaa gaa".
On the new episode I saw she was trying to buy a fancy coffee from a
street cart and it just sounded like a 10 year old might. I can't do the
imitation on a keyboard and some people probably know what I mean and
other don't and there won't be a way to convince them.
MIKE

MIke,
I hear it too...she just kinda mumbles and runs words together...

That's not baby talk -- that's poor enunciation. And *that* I agree AB
had in earlier seasons.
-- Rob

Didn't I read somewhere that English was her second language? May
explain her poor enunciation.

Yes, English is her second language. Alexis is Hispanic; her first language
is Spanish.

Steve B.

[Rob Jensen]

Post by David E. Milligan

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Bill Durham

Post by Mike B
I am talking about the way she sounds, not the content of her lines, and
I don't mean that she says "goo goo gaa gaa".
On the new episode I saw she was trying to buy a fancy coffee from a
street cart and it just sounded like a 10 year old might. I can't do the
imitation on a keyboard and some people probably know what I mean and
other don't and there won't be a way to convince them.
MIKE

MIke,
I hear it too...she just kinda mumbles and runs words together...

That's not baby talk -- that's poor enunciation. And *that* I agree AB
had in earlier seasons.

Didn't I read somewhere that English was her second language? May
explain her poor enunciation.

English *is* her second language -- she's Argentinian/Mexican (via
Texas), so Spanish is her first language. My impression of how she
talked about it on Craig Kilborn last year, however, is that she's known
English a lot longer than just since she was 10. So I'm not convinced
that her poor enunciation is because she's ESL. I think it's just a
side-effect of her naturally Rory-like shyness.

-- Rob

[Georg Litty]

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by David E. Milligan
Didn't I read somewhere that English was her second language?
May explain her poor enunciation.

English *is* her second language -- she's Argentinian/Mexican (via
Texas), so Spanish is her first language.

That may explain her beauty ...

Post by Rob Jensen
So I'm not convinced
that her poor enunciation is because she's ESL. I think it's just a
side-effect of her naturally Rory-like shyness.

And by the way, it can't be that bad, because I understand what she says.
And English is _my_ 3rd language (after German and Latin, before French,
Spanish, Ancient Greek and Ancient Hebrew)

Ciao, Georg <><

[Wayne Brown]

Post by Mike B
I am talking about the way she sounds, not the content of her lines, and I
don't mean that she says "goo goo gaa gaa".
On the new episode I saw she was trying to buy a fancy coffee from a street
cart and it just sounded like a 10 year old might. I can't do the imitation
on a keyboard and some people probably know what I mean and other don't and
there won't be a way to convince them.

I know just what you mean. Her voice often is about a step-and-a-half
away from that annoying tone that some people use when speaking to
their pets: "Ooh, good doggie! Does Mommy's little precious want a
doggie treat?" Rory's voice isn't quite *that* bad, but she sometimes
leans in that direction. As you said, it's the intonation, not the
actual words that give the baby-talk effect.

[Anne]

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Anne

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Mike B
I just started watching GG a few weeks ago. I caught the Pilot on reruns
and have been hooked. Rory seems to have a sort of baby talk kind of
thing going. Not too annoying because she is young and cute. Last week I
caught the brand new episode where she is in college now. She still has
the cutesy baby talk going and it is a bit much for a 19-20 year old
student, don't you think?

Cite instances, please. IMO, your general impression of Rory as having
"a sort of baby talk" is *too* general to comment on.

I think I know what he means. If you watch the pilot, Rory has a much
deeper voice and a more surly teen tone. Later, they make Rory adopt a
sweeter and more submissive tone, which definitely seems more child-like.

Sorry, but that doesn't clear anything up for me. Rory is 15 years
younger than me, so everything she does looks young.
Rory can be surly and bratty toward Lorelai when she wants to be -- as in
the "your boobs are bigger than mine" argument from s1 even though Lor was
the bigger brat in *that* argument (partly because Lor was the one that
picked it). Likewise, Rory's always been a shy, reticient sweetheart, as
in the scene where she and Dean meet in the Pilot (where he helps her pick
up the dumped papers).
She's complex, she contains multitudes. But just because she often wears
the Mom hat when she deals with Lorelai doesn't mean that she's able to do
anything more than play the kid in her dealings with Emily and Richard.
She takes after her mother in the way that she's just not comfortable in
her own skin, even though she's trying.
So baby talk? I just don't see it.

perhaps his term "baby talk" is the issue. it's tonal quality, not actual
words.
think in the range of Murphy brown / Brenda vacarro vs. georgette on the
mary tyler moore show.
not saying that Rory sounds like any of them, but people can sound younger
regardless of their verbal content. And in the pilot, Rory sounded older
[voice had a deeper timbre] than it did in subsequent episodes.

[Mike B]

YES! The Georgette voice on The MTM show is sorta the way I was thinking. It
annoyed me then as it does now.

MIKE

Post by Anne

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Anne

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Mike B
I just started watching GG a few weeks ago. I caught the Pilot on
reruns and have been hooked. Rory seems to have a sort of baby talk
kind of thing going. Not too annoying because she is young and cute.
Last week I caught the brand new episode where she is in college now.
She still has the cutesy baby talk going and it is a bit much for a
19-20 year old student, don't you think?

Cite instances, please. IMO, your general impression of Rory as having
"a sort of baby talk" is *too* general to comment on.

I think I know what he means. If you watch the pilot, Rory has a much
deeper voice and a more surly teen tone. Later, they make Rory adopt a
sweeter and more submissive tone, which definitely seems more child-like.

Sorry, but that doesn't clear anything up for me. Rory is 15 years
younger than me, so everything she does looks young.
Rory can be surly and bratty toward Lorelai when she wants to be -- as in
the "your boobs are bigger than mine" argument from s1 even though Lor
was the bigger brat in *that* argument (partly because Lor was the one
that picked it). Likewise, Rory's always been a shy, reticient
sweetheart, as in the scene where she and Dean meet in the Pilot (where
he helps her pick up the dumped papers).
She's complex, she contains multitudes. But just because she often wears
the Mom hat when she deals with Lorelai doesn't mean that she's able to
do anything more than play the kid in her dealings with Emily and
Richard. She takes after her mother in the way that she's just not
comfortable in her own skin, even though she's trying.
So baby talk? I just don't see it.

perhaps his term "baby talk" is the issue. it's tonal quality, not actual
words.
think in the range of Murphy brown / Brenda vacarro vs. georgette on the
mary tyler moore show.
not saying that Rory sounds like any of them, but people can sound younger
regardless of their verbal content. And in the pilot, Rory sounded older
[voice had a deeper timbre] than it did in subsequent episodes.