Luke's truck

[Melissa]

In the episode when Lor borrows the truck to take Rory to college, the truck
is a stick shift, which Lor has trouble with.

The episode being run today shows Liz driving his truck, and you can see her
put the truck in park, using a typical automatic control on the column.

Anyone else ever notice that?

Melissa

[David E. Milligan]

Post by Melissa
In the episode when Lor borrows the truck to take Rory to college, the truck
is a stick shift, which Lor has trouble with.
The episode being run today shows Liz driving his truck, and you can see her
put the truck in park, using a typical automatic control on the column.
Anyone else ever notice that?
Melissa

Maybe Luke had Gypsy retro-fit the transmission to an automatic to keep Lorelai from
stripping the gears <g>

Something I've noticed from time to time -- whenever one of the teens (Rory, Dean, Jess,
etc) say 'I love you', the receiving party acts like it's BIG deal. I hear kids saying ILY all the
time and no one gets shocked or stunned or is struck speechless.
Maybe it's just a small-town reaction from small-town (unsophisticated) teens..

[Anne]

"David E. Milligan" <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:uuKyi.27242$***@bignews8.bellsouth.net...

[snip]

| Something I've noticed from time to time -- whenever one of the
teens (Rory, Dean, Jess,
| etc) say 'I love you', the receiving party acts like it's BIG deal. I
hear kids saying ILY all the
| time and no one gets shocked or stunned or is struck speechless.
| Maybe it's just a small-town reaction from small-town
(unsophisticated) teens..

What I noticed was that the kids always seemed too quick with the "I love
you's". For example, Lane "loved" Dave before she even went out with him.
It wasn't "I like him" or "I find him interesting" or "I'd like to date
him" -
it always seemed to be LOVE right from the get go.

[William George Ferguson]

Post by Anne
[snip]
| Something I've noticed from time to time -- whenever one of the
teens (Rory, Dean, Jess,
| etc) say 'I love you', the receiving party acts like it's BIG deal. I
hear kids saying ILY all the
| time and no one gets shocked or stunned or is struck speechless.
| Maybe it's just a small-town reaction from small-town
(unsophisticated) teens..
What I noticed was that the kids always seemed too quick with the "I love
you's". For example, Lane "loved" Dave before she even went out with him.
It wasn't "I like him" or "I find him interesting" or "I'd like to date
him" -
it always seemed to be LOVE right from the get go.

Well, that's a charge one can't make against Rory the commitment-phobe.

Rory's theme
"But, if he said he loved me"
"I'd be lost, I'd be frightened"
"I couldn't cope, just couldn't cope"
"I'd close my eyes, I'd run away"
"I wouldn't want to know"

[Rob Jensen]

Post by Anne
[snip]
| Something I've noticed from time to time -- whenever one of the
teens (Rory, Dean, Jess,
| etc) say 'I love you', the receiving party acts like it's BIG deal. I
hear kids saying ILY all the
| time and no one gets shocked or stunned or is struck speechless.
| Maybe it's just a small-town reaction from small-town
(unsophisticated) teens..
What I noticed was that the kids always seemed too quick with the "I love
you's". For example, Lane "loved" Dave before she even went out with him.
It wasn't "I like him" or "I find him interesting" or "I'd like to date
him" -
it always seemed to be LOVE right from the get go.

And Lorelai was doling out I Love You's like candy, IIRC, to either
Christopher or to Luke (right before they broke up) or both.

Lorelai tends to not give out *real* I Love You's, totally sincere and
free of duress or panic. Rory, too, until Logan.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.

[David E. Milligan]

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Anne
[snip]
| Something I've noticed from time to time -- whenever one of the
teens (Rory, Dean, Jess,
| etc) say 'I love you', the receiving party acts like it's BIG deal. I
hear kids saying ILY all the
| time and no one gets shocked or stunned or is struck speechless.
| Maybe it's just a small-town reaction from small-town
(unsophisticated) teens..
What I noticed was that the kids always seemed too quick with the "I love
you's". For example, Lane "loved" Dave before she even went out with him.
It wasn't "I like him" or "I find him interesting" or "I'd like to date
him" -
it always seemed to be LOVE right from the get go.

And Lorelai was doling out I Love You's like candy, IIRC, to either
Christopher or to Luke (right before they broke up) or both.

It seems like she said ILY to Chris about ten times more than she did to Luke. (Once or twice
to Luke and 10 times to Chris?)

Post by Rob Jensen
Lorelai tends to not give out *real* I Love You's, totally sincere and
free of duress or panic. Rory, too, until Logan.
-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.

[Rob Jensen]

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:52:29 -0400, "David E. Milligan"

Post by David E. Milligan

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Anne
[snip]
| Something I've noticed from time to time -- whenever one of the
teens (Rory, Dean, Jess,
| etc) say 'I love you', the receiving party acts like it's BIG deal. I
hear kids saying ILY all the
| time and no one gets shocked or stunned or is struck speechless.
| Maybe it's just a small-town reaction from small-town
(unsophisticated) teens..
What I noticed was that the kids always seemed too quick with the "I love
you's". For example, Lane "loved" Dave before she even went out with him.
It wasn't "I like him" or "I find him interesting" or "I'd like to date
him" -
it always seemed to be LOVE right from the get go.

And Lorelai was doling out I Love You's like candy, IIRC, to either
Christopher or to Luke (right before they broke up) or both.

It seems like she said ILY to Chris about ten times more than she did to Luke. (Once or twice
to Luke and 10 times to Chris?)

IIRC, she said it couple of times to Luke over the last couple of
episodes of season 6 and then doled them out (unconvincingly) like
candy to Chris from French Twist onward until Farewell My Pet. Her
lack of distribution of ILYs over the course of the series is
definitely a revealing trait about how much she bottles her emotions
and, as I've always argued, is really a shy person who puts on the
*mask* of the social butterfly that she actually isn't.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.

[Rob Jensen]

Post by Melissa
In the episode when Lor borrows the truck to take Rory to college, the truck
is a stick shift, which Lor has trouble with.
The episode being run today shows Liz driving his truck, and you can see her
put the truck in park, using a typical automatic control on the column.
Anyone else ever notice that?

I know this is weird, but there are certain kinds of stick-shift
trucks where the stick coming out of the floor, it's actually where
the stick shift is in an automatic -- coming out of the steering
wheel.

Also, what most people who have problems with stick shifts really have
problems with is coordinating the clutch with the stick, so it's
entirely likely that when Lorelai drove it all the way back to Luke's
backwards, she had simply given up on figuring out the shifts and
decided, "Okay, it's in *a* gear, that's good enough for me."

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.

[Melissa]

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Melissa
In the episode when Lor borrows the truck to take Rory to college, the truck
is a stick shift, which Lor has trouble with.
The episode being run today shows Liz driving his truck, and you can see her
put the truck in park, using a typical automatic control on the column.
Anyone else ever notice that?

I know this is weird, but there are certain kinds of stick-shift
trucks where the stick coming out of the floor, it's actually where
the stick shift is in an automatic -- coming out of the steering
wheel.
Also, what most people who have problems with stick shifts really have
problems with is coordinating the clutch with the stick, so it's
entirely likely that when Lorelai drove it all the way back to Luke's
backwards, she had simply given up on figuring out the shifts and
decided, "Okay, it's in *a* gear, that's good enough for me."

Yea, but in the episode with the stick shift, Luke drew a diagram for Lor
for the gears. That wouldn't hold true with a stick on the column.

Melissa

[Wayne Brown]

Post by Melissa
Yea, but in the episode with the stick shift, Luke drew a diagram for Lor
for the gears. That wouldn't hold true with a stick on the column.

In the manual-transmission vehicles with column shift that I've driven,
the same classic "H" pattern was followed as with floor-mounted shifts.
The "H" was just turned on its side, so that left and right were replaced
with up and down.

[Steve B]

Post by Wayne Brown

Post by Melissa
Yea, but in the episode with the stick shift, Luke drew a diagram for Lor
for the gears. That wouldn't hold true with a stick on the column.

In the manual-transmission vehicles with column shift that I've driven,
the same classic "H" pattern was followed as with floor-mounted shifts.
The "H" was just turned on its side, so that left and right were replaced
with up and down.

Or, more accurately, left and right are replaced with forward and backward.
Forward and backward are replaced with up and down.

Steve B.

[Wayne Brown]

Post by Steve B

Post by Wayne Brown

Post by Melissa
Yea, but in the episode with the stick shift, Luke drew a diagram for Lor
for the gears. That wouldn't hold true with a stick on the column.

In the manual-transmission vehicles with column shift that I've driven,
the same classic "H" pattern was followed as with floor-mounted shifts.
The "H" was just turned on its side, so that left and right were replaced
with up and down.

Or, more accurately, left and right are replaced with forward and backward.
Forward and backward are replaced with up and down.

It's probably been over two decades since I last used a column-mounted
shift, but now that I think about it, I see that you're right.

[Rob Jensen]

Post by Melissa

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Melissa
In the episode when Lor borrows the truck to take Rory to college, the

truck

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Melissa
is a stick shift, which Lor has trouble with.
The episode being run today shows Liz driving his truck, and you can see

her

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Melissa
put the truck in park, using a typical automatic control on the column.
Anyone else ever notice that?

I know this is weird, but there are certain kinds of stick-shift
trucks where the stick coming out of the floor, it's actually where
the stick shift is in an automatic -- coming out of the steering
wheel.
Also, what most people who have problems with stick shifts really have
problems with is coordinating the clutch with the stick, so it's
entirely likely that when Lorelai drove it all the way back to Luke's
backwards, she had simply given up on figuring out the shifts and
decided, "Okay, it's in *a* gear, that's good enough for me."

Yea, but in the episode with the stick shift, Luke drew a diagram for Lor
for the gears. That wouldn't hold true with a stick on the column.

We're talking Lorelai here. Luke's diagram can easily be explained
away as him playing a joke on her since she'd have to have been a
passenger in Luke's truck at least a few times before.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.

[Jerry Davis]

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Melissa
In the episode when Lor borrows the truck to take Rory to college, the truck
is a stick shift, which Lor has trouble with.
The episode being run today shows Liz driving his truck, and you can see her
put the truck in park, using a typical automatic control on the column.
Anyone else ever notice that?

I know this is weird, but there are certain kinds of stick-shift
trucks where the stick coming out of the floor, it's actually where
the stick shift is in an automatic -- coming out of the steering
wheel.

Actually, a column mounted manual shifter was generally known as "three on
the tree" as opposed to "four on the floor." This was the standard
arrangement for many if not most passenger automobiles with manual
transmissions for many years. The "H" shift pattern was the same as for
floor mounted shifters, just rotated 90 dregrees to be on the column.

As for putting it in "Park," one generally placed the manual transmission in
reverse when parked, which is the position fully counterclockwise while
pulling the lever towards the driver, a lot like the lever position for an
automatic PRNDL lever.

[Rob Jensen]

Post by Jerry Davis

Post by Rob Jensen

Post by Melissa
In the episode when Lor borrows the truck to take Rory to college, the truck
is a stick shift, which Lor has trouble with.
The episode being run today shows Liz driving his truck, and you can see her
put the truck in park, using a typical automatic control on the column.
Anyone else ever notice that?

I know this is weird, but there are certain kinds of stick-shift
trucks where the stick coming out of the floor, it's actually where
the stick shift is in an automatic -- coming out of the steering
wheel.

Actually, a column mounted manual shifter was generally known as "three on
the tree" as opposed to "four on the floor." This was the standard
arrangement for many if not most passenger automobiles with manual
transmissions for many years. The "H" shift pattern was the same as for
floor mounted shifters, just rotated 90 dregrees to be on the column.
As for putting it in "Park," one generally placed the manual transmission in
reverse when parked, which is the position fully counterclockwise while
pulling the lever towards the driver, a lot like the lever position for an
automatic PRNDL lever.

This would actually be a good explanation for why Lorelai had to drive
the truck all the way back from Yale in reverse. And the way you
explain it, it makes Luke drawing her a diagram still work.

BTW, this wouldn't qualify as one of Stan Lee's No-Prizes, but it's
its own reward for explaining why the scene does work for those of us
who are not-so-mechanically inclined. Thanks!

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.

[unknown]

Post by Melissa
In the episode when Lor borrows the truck to take Rory to college, the truck
is a stick shift, which Lor has trouble with.
The episode being run today shows Liz driving his truck, and you can see her
put the truck in park, using a typical automatic control on the column.
Anyone else ever notice that?
Melissa

The nerve of some people. You actually want consistancy on a show
like this?